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		<title>By: Michael Jong</title>
		<link>http://marlinmaniac.com/2009/11/20/more-on-the-johnson-situation/comment-page-1/#comment-493</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Jong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 19:18:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lane,

Thanks for keeping the info flowing. Let&#039;s see the type of offers the Marlins get, maybe it would be worth our while. If there isn&#039;t something really strong, like what Law mentioned, we could go into the regular season with him and still get something at the deadline if we fall out of contention.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lane,</p>
<p>Thanks for keeping the info flowing. Let&#8217;s see the type of offers the Marlins get, maybe it would be worth our while. If there isn&#8217;t something really strong, like what Law mentioned, we could go into the regular season with him and still get something at the deadline if we fall out of contention.</p>
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		<title>By: Lane</title>
		<link>http://marlinmaniac.com/2009/11/20/more-on-the-johnson-situation/comment-page-1/#comment-490</link>
		<dc:creator>Lane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 17:06:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michael,

Buster Olney&#039;s insider had this:  &quot;5. The respected John Perotto twittered that the Marlins are willing to trade Josh Johnson. I made contact with a couple of executives of rival teams Thursday night, and both indicated that the Marlins had not yet told them this.&quot;

and then Peter Gammons had this on Twitter:

@pgammo:
  Tis the season when agents try to spin news. So here is reality:Josh Johnson isn&#039;t going anywhere. 2010 @ $4M is good business for Phish</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael,</p>
<p>Buster Olney&#8217;s insider had this:  &#8220;5. The respected John Perotto twittered that the Marlins are willing to trade Josh Johnson. I made contact with a couple of executives of rival teams Thursday night, and both indicated that the Marlins had not yet told them this.&#8221;</p>
<p>and then Peter Gammons had this on Twitter:</p>
<p>@pgammo:<br />
  Tis the season when agents try to spin news. So here is reality:Josh Johnson isn&#8217;t going anywhere. 2010 @ $4M is good business for Phish</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Jong</title>
		<link>http://marlinmaniac.com/2009/11/20/more-on-the-johnson-situation/comment-page-1/#comment-488</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Jong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 01:38:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lane,

Thanks for the link and the quote (for those of us like me who cannot access ESPN Insider). I absolutely agree with Law. If the team has no interest in resigning Johnson, the return package would be very good and the Marlins could easily get an excellent haul WITH major league talent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lane,</p>
<p>Thanks for the link and the quote (for those of us like me who cannot access ESPN Insider). I absolutely agree with Law. If the team has no interest in resigning Johnson, the return package would be very good and the Marlins could easily get an excellent haul WITH major league talent.</p>
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		<title>By: Lane</title>
		<link>http://marlinmaniac.com/2009/11/20/more-on-the-johnson-situation/comment-page-1/#comment-487</link>
		<dc:creator>Lane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 18:56:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michael,

Keith Law just posted his Insider take on JJ, fwiw...  

http://insider.espn.go.com/insider/features/rumors#3728

&quot;The Marlins actually have a history of moving guys early, and in Johnson -- under control for whoever gets him for two more years -- they have a player who is worth a major package of prospects. Think: two ML-ready guys, plus two solid prospects at the Double-A level. In Johnson you have a difference-maker like Halladay, but you have that extra year of control. He doesn&#039;t have Halladay&#039;s history of durability, but few do.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael,</p>
<p>Keith Law just posted his Insider take on JJ, fwiw&#8230;  </p>
<p><a href="http://insider.espn.go.com/insider/features/rumors#3728" rel="nofollow">http://insider.espn.go.com/insider/features/rumors#3728</a></p>
<p>&#8220;The Marlins actually have a history of moving guys early, and in Johnson &#8212; under control for whoever gets him for two more years &#8212; they have a player who is worth a major package of prospects. Think: two ML-ready guys, plus two solid prospects at the Double-A level. In Johnson you have a difference-maker like Halladay, but you have that extra year of control. He doesn&#8217;t have Halladay&#8217;s history of durability, but few do.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Jong</title>
		<link>http://marlinmaniac.com/2009/11/20/more-on-the-johnson-situation/comment-page-1/#comment-484</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Jong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 02:05:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lane,

The organization&#039;s been mum on the whole issue, but I think that this silence probably means the Marlins are moving on with a year-to-year plan. And yeah, I don&#039;t like Samson all that much (not at all, actually).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lane,</p>
<p>The organization&#8217;s been mum on the whole issue, but I think that this silence probably means the Marlins are moving on with a year-to-year plan. And yeah, I don&#8217;t like Samson all that much (not at all, actually).</p>
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		<title>By: Lane</title>
		<link>http://marlinmaniac.com/2009/11/20/more-on-the-johnson-situation/comment-page-1/#comment-483</link>
		<dc:creator>Lane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 23:42:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>just heard David Samson on his show on 790 the ticket with Dan LeBatard, and he certainly didn&#039;t make it sound like JJ was coming back (or at least extended).  He basically insinuated that they were not going to tie up all their money in one or two players.

Of course, every word that comes out of his mouth sounds assholish, I wonder if they&#039;ll put it online.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>just heard David Samson on his show on 790 the ticket with Dan LeBatard, and he certainly didn&#8217;t make it sound like JJ was coming back (or at least extended).  He basically insinuated that they were not going to tie up all their money in one or two players.</p>
<p>Of course, every word that comes out of his mouth sounds assholish, I wonder if they&#8217;ll put it online.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Jong</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Jong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 21:39:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Matt P,

Since the contracts are backloaded, the Marlins would not have to worrk about that until 2012. There is uncertainty as to whether or not they would be willing at that point to pay the salaries of Ramirez &lt;em&gt;and&lt;/em&gt; Johnson at that point, but the fan base assumes that with the new stadium being built, plans on increasing payroll will be in effect. In addition, the payroll for the team has gone into the $40-50M range during Loria&#039;s tenure as Marlins owner, particularly after the team won the World Series in 2003.

Alas, it does not seem to be what will happen. All signs point to the Marlins moving forward with a year-to-year plan, which may ultimately be detrimental to the team.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matt P,</p>
<p>Since the contracts are backloaded, the Marlins would not have to worrk about that until 2012. There is uncertainty as to whether or not they would be willing at that point to pay the salaries of Ramirez <em>and</em> Johnson at that point, but the fan base assumes that with the new stadium being built, plans on increasing payroll will be in effect. In addition, the payroll for the team has gone into the $40-50M range during Loria&#8217;s tenure as Marlins owner, particularly after the team won the World Series in 2003.</p>
<p>Alas, it does not seem to be what will happen. All signs point to the Marlins moving forward with a year-to-year plan, which may ultimately be detrimental to the team.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt P</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt P</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 17:21:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Could you guys afford to give Johnson 14 Million though considering that you&#039;re already giving Ramirez 15 million? Would your owner raise the payroll to a minimum 50 million?

Even he only got 10, then that would be an 18 Million Dollar Raise for those two guys. Would your owner raise the payroll to 45-47 million to keep both?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Could you guys afford to give Johnson 14 Million though considering that you&#8217;re already giving Ramirez 15 million? Would your owner raise the payroll to a minimum 50 million?</p>
<p>Even he only got 10, then that would be an 18 Million Dollar Raise for those two guys. Would your owner raise the payroll to 45-47 million to keep both?</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Jong</title>
		<link>http://marlinmaniac.com/2009/11/20/more-on-the-johnson-situation/comment-page-1/#comment-473</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Jong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 20:01:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lane,

I don&#039;t think it&#039;s so much &quot;pressure to make a deal,&quot; as if they will do it, they&#039;ll do it, and if they don&#039;t want to, then they definitely won&#039;t. I think there will be pressure to make a trade in the face of a fan base that is disillusioned but still hopes for good fortune now that tax dollars are building a new stadium. This is countered by the notion that if they continue down the road and wait to trade Johnson, they might face a Johan Santana situation in which teams might not be so willing to deal for him with less team control years.

I don&#039;t know. It will definitely be an intriguing off-season for the Marlins. Stay tuned to Marlin Maniac, that&#039;s all I can say.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lane,</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s so much &#8220;pressure to make a deal,&#8221; as if they will do it, they&#8217;ll do it, and if they don&#8217;t want to, then they definitely won&#8217;t. I think there will be pressure to make a trade in the face of a fan base that is disillusioned but still hopes for good fortune now that tax dollars are building a new stadium. This is countered by the notion that if they continue down the road and wait to trade Johnson, they might face a Johan Santana situation in which teams might not be so willing to deal for him with less team control years.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know. It will definitely be an intriguing off-season for the Marlins. Stay tuned to Marlin Maniac, that&#8217;s all I can say.</p>
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		<title>By: Lane</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 19:55:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think the Marlins feel that pressure;  they are already known as the team that sells off high priced players, they already have the stadium deal, the players all know they won&#039;t get paid by this regime, and they already have no fans coming to the games at Dolphins Stadium.. I doubt this makes their knees shake to acquiesce to a deal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think the Marlins feel that pressure;  they are already known as the team that sells off high priced players, they already have the stadium deal, the players all know they won&#8217;t get paid by this regime, and they already have no fans coming to the games at Dolphins Stadium.. I doubt this makes their knees shake to acquiesce to a deal.</p>
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